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Questions on Lajjitaadi Avasthas
« on: January 12, 2016, 02:05:52 PM »
Ryan, I have been studying the Lajjitaadi Avasthas course and need a few clarifications.

1.  Under Starved Avashta, one of the conditions is a planet being aspected by an enemy.  Would it be correct to say that it has to be a non-cruel enemy, because if a planet is aspected by a cruel enemy, it is agitated, not starved?

2.  Under Delighted Avashta, a planet is delighted if conjunct a friend (excluding Saturn).  What if the friend is the Sun?  Would the planet be Delighted or Agitated?  For example, the Sun is a friend to the Moon.  If they are conjunct, is the Moon Delighted or Agitated?  Or both?  The book has entries for both Sun delighting the Moon and Sun agitating the Moon, so I'm not sure. 

The same situation comes up for Mercury, Mars, and Jupiter, as they all have the Sun as a friend. 

Thanks!

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Re: Questions on Lajjitaadi Avasthas
« Reply #1 on: January 18, 2016, 01:45:29 PM »
1)  No, for example Mercury can starve Jupiter, and it is not cruel.  A planet is agitated when it is WITH a cruel enemy.  It is starved if aspected by it.

2) The Moon can be delighted by the Sun through aspect, but then is agitated by conjunction. 

Yes, agitation occurs through conjunction, even if friends.  Since Malefics can shake up whoever they are influencing, a planet can be delighted and agitated.  Think about a teacher who has your best interest at heart, but makes you stay after school until you learn how to use commas.  You are getting delighted by having someone take an interest in your learning which is good, but you are upset, because you can't go outside and play with your friends.
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Re: Questions on Lajjitaadi Avasthas
« Reply #2 on: January 18, 2016, 04:13:48 PM »
Hmm.  Well, I am still confused.  Pg 109 of Volume 2 says that a planet is agitated if "joined by" the Sun or "aspected" by an enemy that is cruel. 

On Pg 108 it says that starvation is caused by being conjunct or aspected by an enemy (or in an enemy sign or conjunct Saturn). 

So being aspected by an enemy is under the description for both Starvation and Agitation, except that under Agitation it states the enemy is also a cruel planet.

This is why I question what being aspected by an enemy means. 
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Re: Questions on Lajjitaadi Avasthas
« Reply #3 on: January 19, 2016, 09:38:19 AM »
Thanks for your patience Brenda.  This would be the point in a webinar, where we would unmute and discuss it.  Sometimes the written text doesn't always allow for the immediate intricacies to come through.  Let me summarize the indications of these different avashtas as clearly as I can.  If this doesn't work, give me a call.  Let me know how it comes through.

A starved planet will be in an a natural enemies sign.
A starved planet will be conjunct by a natural enemy.
Any planet conjunct Saturn is starved.
(The enemies spoken of in starvation can be either gentle or cruel, this is why a Full Moon can starve Venus, both gentle planets.)

An agitated planet is conjunct the Sun.  Just like any planet conjunct Saturn is starved.  Any planet conjunct the Sun is agitated. (Probably the basis for combustion in general thought.)
A planet that is an natural enemy AND a cruel planet will also agitate another planet through aspect.  (Here we could have the Sun aspecting Saturn, which would not only starve the planet but also agitated it.)  This is why there is a big difference between gentle planets starving each other and cruel planets starving each other.  A gentle planet starvation is getting in the way of the other planets agenda, but not out of cruelty.  A cruel planet starvation is worse, because there is cruel agitation that comes a long with it.

Moon starves Venus -  The person takes away your lover because she is in love with with your lover.  You use your lover.  That starves your love life.
Sun starves Venus -  The person takes away your lover because she wants to dominate you and prove her superiority over you.  That starves your love life and makes you feel bad about yourself. 

They can both be in action at the same time. 
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